Episode 173 – AAAS Report – Final Word

AAAS Report - Final Word

AAAS Report – Final Word

Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray wrap up the three-part discussion on the AAAS Report on the Quality and Gap Analysis of Latent Fingerprint Examination. Surprisingly, the guys agree with many of the recommendations and conclusions in the document with an occasional quibble or clarification. As was hinted in the past two episodes, there are more serious concerns with the report’s suggested language and proposed limitation of the word “identification“.

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Episode 171 – AAAS Report and John Black Interview

AAAS Report and John Black Interview

AAAS Report and John Black Interview

Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray finally get around to discussing the report on latent fingerprint comparisons from the American Association for the Advancement of Science. John Black (from Black and White Forensics) was on the committee that wrote the report and joins the discussion on some of the merits and limitations of the paper. While many of the research recommendations are the next steps that the latent print field needs, they are also the same recommendations made by other reports. One of the report’s main failures is the suggested wording for the identification decision.

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Episode 169 – Simon Cole Interview

Simon Cole Interview

Simon Cole Interview

Eric Ray sits down for an interview with Simon Cole from the University of California Irvine. Simon explains how he first became interested in forensics and in latent print comparisons in general, and then outlines the history of his criticisms of the field. Glenn Langenburg later joins Eric for a review of the interview and some of Glenn’s perspectives on how Simon’s criticisms and the latent print response have both evolved over time.

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Episode 165 – Categorical vs. Probabilistic

Categorical vs. Probabilistic

Categorical vs. Probabilistic

Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray tackle two articles in one fantastic episode. First, “Lay Understanding of ‘Identification’: How Jurors Interpret Forensic Identification Testimony” by Henry Swofford and Jessica Cino from the Journal of Forensic Identification. Secondly, the guys tackle a paper from the Journal of Forensic Sciences, “Comparing Categorical and Probabilistic Fingerprint Evidence” by Brandon Garrett, et al. The big question is: should we say “identification” or should we express the same conclusion in a probabilistic manner?

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Episode 154 – 2017 IAI Conference Recap

2017 IAI Conference Recap

2017 IAI Conference Recap

Glenn and Eric catch up on how things went at the 2017 IAI Educational Conference in Atlanta, Georgia. Glenn covers a panel discussion on the appropriate use of identification, a new workshop of the PCAST calculations, and discussions about what our error rates should be vs. what juries think our error rates should be.

Double Loop Podcast with Glenn Langenburg and Eric Ray
Podcast for Latent Print Examiners
Your source for everything about fingerprints
While you’re working on your comparisons, we’ll talk about comparisons